WPOA Completes St Paul’s survey (FROM PRESS RELEASE)
The Western Property Owners Association (WPOA) met on Tuesday night and reviewed a survey on St Paul’s conducted over the last three months. Comments from residents on the survey can be reviewed on our web site at gcWPOA.com under the category notices or documents. Survey results will also be posted this week.
The WPOA used the web site survey monkey and also printed and sent out surveys to all WPOA households. Over 110 residents returned the surveys. The general consensus from the WPOA was for the Village to save as much of the chapel and building as possible, to focus on public space, arts, theater and music and not the sports dominated plans. Tops concerns mentioned in the survey included impacts on our tax base (taxes are all ready to high), impact of a sports facility on our transportation network ( traffic, parking), and the quality of our architecture.
Residents did not want income producing attractions to be the sole driver of the decision and had negative reactions to the proposed hockey rink and indoor soccer/lax field. The only sports venue which received specific mention was a swimming pool which could be used by all ages including our high school team. Village Trustee Bolebruch and Makrinos updated residents on the path forward and the vital input of the Board of Commissioners of Cultural & Recreational Affairs and all four of the POAs . The recent hiring of a sports group to survey the Village will be completed in two to three months.
The President of the WPOA, Gerry Kelly, thanked all the members for taking the time to fill out the survey and highlighted the web site where the results will be posted (Gcwpoa.com). Kelly said the wide range of opinions on the survey shows the challenges of coming to an agreement on this project. However, our schools show combining great music, theater, clubs, sports and academics are possible. The WPOA applauds the trustees on their effort and hopes together we can make this village asset unique.
COMMENTS FROM ONLINE SURVEY
As a long time resident of GC who voted many years ago for the original purchase and voted again not to demolish it a few years ago, I was happy to see a potential plan in play. However, I think it is too far reaching. Taxes are a huge concern and of course need to be highly considered, so I am open to the idea of the hockey rink if that will help offset some expense, but definitely not the indoor field. That would be an additional expense to the renovations that I don’t believe will be beneficial. There is a need in this town for an indoor pool, for the HS swim team (instead of them practicing very early in the AM at Adelphi), a junior swim team, year round swim lessons, swim/lap time for residents, and water aerobics (popular at the pool in the summer—personally I’d love that in the winter). Maybe, for income, it could be used by other neighboring teams for practice, as well as a fee to offset the cost for the aerobics, as well as a fee generated for swim lessons that people pay at Adelphi, LI Swim, Gold Fish. I’d very much like to see a theater in St Paul’s. I think we should try to do something like Port Washington did with an unused school, there’s an auditorium, they have shows, they bring in a variety of performers at The Landmark Theater. They have great shows there, take a look, there’s everything from children’s productions, to stand up comedians, to jazz musicians, etc—-take a look. In the summer they have a children’s summer camp there. It is a very active facility—-if this creative use can be used there, why not here? Again, generate income from ticket sales. Finally, have you ever looked at the Great Neck Community Education program at the “Cumberland School”—-it puts the pathetic same old same old few adult ed courses in GC to shame. There are page after pages of classes from art to language to networking to history and everything inbetween. Why not classes like that? The courses they offer vary in price form a couple of hundred dollars for a few weeks to under 100 for a informational class. Take a look at their catalog—it is impressive and a wonderful resource not only for their residents but for non residents as well. I just believe so much can be offered at this amazing iconic part of Garden City that can benefit the residents, in so many ways, with the potential of offsetting some of those costs by benefiting to some extend others. Pool, theater/performance, classrooms for continuing education classes as well as STEM. Let this be a place everyone in this town can be so proud of—not just for children and sports—-something for everyone!!!!
9/14/2018 6:21 PMView respondent’s answers
no
Yes. The plan is unnecessarily expansive and expensive. An ice rink in a town with no great interest in ice sports doesn’t make any sense. It will bring crowds and security concerns to a field used for the sports kids actually play, lacrosse and soccer, directly across the street from the middle school. The Cathedral Nursery School, a well respected early education center would be demolished. St. Paul’s, an icon in Garden City rich in historical and architectural significance would be turned into a garish arena. All because trustee Minuto wants a pet project. I worry that Mayor Daugney will push this through as he has other town issues, in his disrespectful and aggressive way. I wish the building could be preserved and turned into a performance space which could be rented out for revenue. A project that would not cost anywhere near the current estimates.
- I am happy to see St. Paul’s finally addressed. The people of the village need more information/facts when asked to respond to questions. I believe we should definitely preserved the building from the elements first. All groups should be represented not just sports enthusiasts. Saving the facade and clock tower are good ideas but the question was tagged onto just this presentation. This makes it appear that if you want the clock tower and facade preserved then you want this proposal. These are two separate issues and should be two separate questions. Don’t give uo, we need this DONE!
Yes, please with the amount of the building being saved, turf field may extend the build too far north especially when adding needed parking in that area. Need more cost data.
8/31/2018 7:43 AMView respondent’s answers
enough meetings just knock it down re question 7 knock it down should be one of the choices
8/30/2018 10:18 PM
This is a national landmark dedicated to the founder of Garden City. I still cannot understand why the priority is not to preserve the building as close to it’s intended purpose–to educate. The library should be moved here, and the chapel could be a great study room. Extra funding could be provided by the federal and state governments, or even various historical societies. Additionally, many other public functions could be housed here, too. The future must be considered, and the priority must be to educate and promote excellence to our children–all children, not only those interested in soccer or hockey. A new ice skating rink already has been built nearby at Eisenhower Park, and it seems empty on most days. Preserve St. Paul’s and promote excellence.
9/24/2018 5:15 AMView respondent’s answers
No but this is a very poorly designed survey. Many of the answers don’t have options I agree with. I don’t care what its used for as long its used for something people want. Q7 is terrible
9/24/2018 1:04 AMView respondent’s answers
No. The option of leveling the structure has not been presented.
9/24/2018 1:06 PMView respondent’s answers
yes – i would like for us to consider a 55 and over living facility. i realize that it’s zoned for a park, but we should to change this.
9/25/2018 1:38 PM
Yes. I don’t understand what is taking so long with making a final decision. This has been going on for years!!! Pull the Trigger and do it!!
9/26/2018 10:03 AMView respondent’s answers
Yes. Hockey arena seems like a very parochial choice. Does the village really need another soccer/lacrosse/field hockey field? Indoor pool, not proposed, seems to be a facility that would cater to the largest segment of the GC demographics. It is noted that Echo Park (Hempstead) and Tulley Park (N. Hempstead) are well subscribed but not revenue producing. With regard to Hockey and Soccer field, my general reaction was: “just who is making these bone headed decisions anyway.”
9/25/2018 7:09 PMView respondent’s answers
Sorry. We have not. However, I would like to say it would be tragic to lose this historic sight. It was built and dedicated to the man who created this great town we call home. Why would anyone want to destroy that?
9/25/2018 5:07 PM
by allowing every choice and option to be considered there will never be a consensus- only more costs for consultants to explore an endless ranges of possibilities many of which cater to sports enthusiasts, not to the common benefit of all villagers.
11/9/2018 11:07 PMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
While I did not attend any presentations and I prioritized the possibilities in the survey, my basic feeling is that the everything except the basketball and senior offices should be torn down. The town did study after study, over many years and at great cost and nearly nothing has happened. Get it over with!
11/8/2018 11:16 AMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
I attended one session and was deeply disappointed that the proposals revolved around “sports” than anything else. I would have hoped to have been offered more diverse ideas. Why does everything in GC have to only include “sports”? There are quite a lot of folks who might enjoy a movie theater, arts center, restaurant.
10/26/2018 10:37 AMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
No. Have read all of the articles in the GC newspaper. Still don’t understand the reason for a hockey rink. As part of this building would really like to see a teen hangout space – break it up by middle school and high school and have couches, video games, ping pong, pool, mini bowling, etc, food/coffee/ice cream to buy. Offer a membership. Our kids wander 7th St looking for something to do. Or they sit home and ply video games. Would love a safe place for them to hang out and socialize before they all forget how.
10/24/2018 10:08 AMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
Yes, I was pleasantly surprised that so much of the building would be maintained. I would like to see data that indicates that a hockey rink or turf field would be financially viable.
10/13/2018 2:14 PMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
No so maybe this is why I don’t understand why a hockey rink was selected. And the questions on this survey are not good at all – people are going to answer based on their personal needs of their family. To be more objective we need to see estimated operating expenses and ROI for each option. The Village can’t even manage the pool to break even, how will they manage something this big?? Whatever it is, it should be flexible to host birthday parties – every family in this town pays other party places to host for their kids – bouncy parties, sports parties, rock climbing, etc – all of this revenue should stay in GC. Also look at the Rockville Centre Rec center – they offer over a dozen classes for kids and adults – not just sports – cooking, art, music. Would love to see this in GC.
10/11/2018 11:55 AMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
No we have not attended. We would like more information on it but definitely love the idea of fixing St. Paul’s and making it a community treasure.
10/1/2018 8:53 PMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
I have. There is no need to put a rooftop soccer/lax field with the fancy roof. Stick to the pool/ice rink for revenue, move the nursery school inside to flexible classrooms/meeting areas for added revenue, and focus on addressing parking. The architectural presentation/cost can be scaled down greatly by eliminating the third and fourth floors.
10/1/2018 12:39 PMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
No, may be too late to save St. Paul. So much deterioration. It’s been too long and will be too costly to fix. Taxes are already so high.
9/30/2018 4:31 PMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
No. I have lived in this village for 10+ years. Only one idea has been voted on (Avalon). Too much consideration given to a vote many, many years ago (before I moved here)
9/30/2018 3:39 PMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
We love this idea, the building has been falling apart for the last 20 years, there will be nothing left to save if we let it sit 5 more years. You can’t please everyone, so just move forward with this plan.
9/29/2018 1:04 PMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
Very informative, stay on top of these railroad people because the worst is still to come.
9/28/2018 11:24 AMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
Yes. I don’t understand what is taking so long with making a final decision. This has been going on for years!!! Pull the Trigger and do it!!
9/26/2018 10:03 AMAdd tags –View respondent’s answers
Yes. Too much emphasis on athletics (limited use to athletes only) and none on the arts. (More residents would benefit)
11/13/2018 6:07 PM
From written responses on paper surveys
-100 Percent behind this plan
-My recommendation is to tear down the building and provide area for additional parking. Please eliminate the thought of a sports facility for indoor soccer, hockey etc.…that’s a “pipe dream”
- More proposals needed ASAP before building deteriorates further
-Most important goal is to save the exterior of the building ……maybe we should consider the Landmark building in Port Washington with shows and events to raise income. Maybe the classrooms can be rented out as artist’s space, for painters, dance studios, music lessons
-Any possibility of fixing the exterior of SP? It is dangerous and unsightly
-Take the building down
-Something must be done soon-no matter what it is!
Any chance of going back to original proposal of assisted living-senior housing.
-Its too late but this building would have been a wonderful high school (less busing, use by the middle school etc.….
Too much money—sell property
-My understanding was that there was supposed to be reports from multiple consultants. Thus far there has been only one proposal
The Presentation was extremely over the top. It did not give us options to start with and just save the building using it without an extensive plan.
-Our taxes are high enough. We have these facilities close by —-you would only the competing for business
Indoor pool –we spend a fortune every year renting pool for our high school teams—in off hours the pool could be rented to other schools for team practice –so many seniors in village are swimmers- it is needed!!
-The only thing I would agree on 100 percent is the demolition of SP. We raised 5 children at this location –all now at other locations. SP could be leveled and replaced with smaller living quarters for GC homeowners who would prefer staying in GC but in much less surroundings.
Taxes are much too high all ready…previous proposals have been voted down by the residents of GC Why doesn’t the Village come up with a proposal for retiring residents that is affordable-bring in outsid1e company to build a facility for retiring residents